Sep 02, 2010, 05:07 PM // 17:07
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#21
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Academy Page
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Originally Posted by diabiosx
As I said before earth ele spikes harder. Lack of damage output is only valid in 3way capture points, if your balanced team dont know how to push.
pressure from balanced comes from poison spam and 2warriors. Most of the time in 1v1 matches people are not balled to merit rodgort's advantage.
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Pressure from balanced doesn't just come from poison spam and warriors.
People do ball up a lot; regardless, same argument can be applied to UG; therefore, moot point.
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Originally Posted by diabiosx
As I said before earth ele spikes harder.Fire ele is just as easy to shut down. Putting AoS on frontline means monks are going on the offensive which means they are easier targets to spike down.
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Please re-read what I said.
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Originally Posted by Elektraaa
for a defensive character the earth ele is pretty easy to shut down.
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Thus, your point is moot.
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Originally Posted by diabiosx
Thanks again for making my point that earth ele is just as good as fire offensive.
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The only point I have made is that there's fors and against for both, but ultimately, the fire ele has a higher DPS and that's why I favour it. I don't like defensive builds in the slightest.
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Originally Posted by diabiosx
(prot needs to clean blinds and put AoS, energy pressure and AoS not on infuse=gg) the fact that you can shutdown the frontline pressure at times puts more of your characters on the offense. Do you even play balanced??
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I'm shocked you've said the last statement, honestly. An argument doesn't revolve around what I do play. Since you want to get personal though, yes I have played pretty much nothing but balanced and yes I am a lot better than you, and yes I am a lot better than anyone in your guild.
Now that's out the way with, perhaps you can present a better argument?
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Originally Posted by diabiosx
what is a antimelee area? is that even a HA term?
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I speak ENGLISH not guildwars:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anti
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/melee
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/area
Also, ANYONE that says "AoS must be on infuser at all times" is just plain bad. Being static is just plain badness. A monk should be able to look at the game and think "hey it's ok for me to do this" or "it's ok for me to do that".
Learn to play dynamically and if you can't do that at least learn the theory of it. Failing that, go play pong.
Last edited by Elektraaa; Sep 02, 2010 at 05:11 PM // 17:11..
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Sep 02, 2010, 05:17 PM // 17:17
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#22
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: still lost
Guild: Guy In Real Life [GIRL]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diabiosx
Fire ele is just as easy to shut down. It is about having the extra layer of defense. in HoH if your earth is getting camped by ranger, it means your rit isnt. If your earth is getting camped by mesmer, it means your monk isnt.
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Get a new ranger and mesmer, they are doing it wrong.
On topic it doesn't matter both are equally good. I like earth myself but yeah fire does do a little bit more damage.
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Sep 02, 2010, 05:21 PM // 17:21
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#23
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Sep 2010
Guild: Your Math Teachers Reloaded
Profession: W/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rezz Anna Nicole
UG and eruption pwn a lot more bro I can see you're not very experienced player but that's ok. Just go test it and you'll see.
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so that is why No guild is running UG?
Because it pwns so much more?
Yes , Fireele do more damage than UG-Ele and they are much better to clean the Middle fast. I don't know if you ever played Balanced bro but without Savanna Heat u wont kill much in 1 vs 1.
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Sep 02, 2010, 05:21 PM // 17:21
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#24
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Fast As A Turtle[WoOm]
Profession: W/E
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Poison and 2warriors are majority of the pressure. I just said no AoS on infuse=gg, because it is true. I know who the prot puts AoS on most of the time, I can capitalize on the information. Also I added more info on post that you quoting its how i post since i am doing something else while posting xD. I never said AoS 24/7 on infuse.
Last edited by diabiosx; Sep 02, 2010 at 05:28 PM // 17:28..
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Sep 02, 2010, 05:23 PM // 17:23
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#25
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Fast As A Turtle[WoOm]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowstactic
so that is why No guild is running UG?
Because it pwns so much more?
Yes , Fireele do more damage than UG-Ele and they are much better to clean the Middle fast. I don't know if you ever played Balanced bro but without Savanna Heat u wont kill much in 1 vs 1.
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Fire ele is brainless, UG ele involves alittle bit of brain to use right. Most of the Fire eles in balanced dont talk, press T and nuke. fire is good for pugging and is noob friendly. UG is superior but noobs cant use it right(as mentioned in the posts above)
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Sep 02, 2010, 05:25 PM // 17:25
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#26
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Academy Page
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Originally Posted by bitchbar player
Get a new ranger and mesmer, they are doing it wrong.
On topic it doesn't matter both are equally good. I like earth myself but yeah fire does do a little bit more damage.
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Well anyone to think that you should "camp" someone as an interrupter, or only cast a skill on one specific player (even if it is applicable to others) is being short-sighted and ultimately, low skill.
Ridiculous argument of his, as I never stated one should camp the earth ele.
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Originally Posted by diabiosx
Poison and 2warriors are majority of the pressure. I know who the prot puts AoS on most of the time, I can capitalize on the information. Also I added more info on post that you quoting its how i post since i am doing something else while posting xD.
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I don't care, you just present yourself as butt-hurt and desperate.
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Originally Posted by diabiosx
Fire ele is brainless, UG ele involves alittle bit of brain to use right. Most of the Fire eles in balanced dont talk, press T and nuke. fire is good for pugging and is noob friendly. UG is superior but noobs cant use it right(as mentioned in the posts above)
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You are playing with bad people. I am not going to form an argument revolved around the premise that you can't make skillful friends.
Last edited by Elektraaa; Sep 02, 2010 at 05:27 PM // 17:27..
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Sep 02, 2010, 05:27 PM // 17:27
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#27
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Fast As A Turtle[WoOm]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bitchbar player
Get a new ranger and mesmer, they are doing it wrong.
On topic it doesn't matter both are equally good. I like earth myself but yeah fire does do a little bit more damage.
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A earth ele and rit can be in different sides of the map so ranger is not possible to shutdown both. A mesmer can do it yes if you can find a uber pro one xD
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Sep 02, 2010, 05:31 PM // 17:31
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#28
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Academy Page
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diabiosx
A earth ele and rit can be in different sides of the map so ranger is not possible to shutdown both. A mesmer can do it yes if you can find a uber pro one xD
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Then you defeated your own argument.
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Sep 02, 2010, 05:38 PM // 17:38
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#29
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Fast As A Turtle[WoOm]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elektraaa
Then you defeated your own argument.
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How did i just defeated my own argument?? a ranger has to decide between a rit or a earth. A mesmer can shutdown earth and monks, but its hard to find one. Again as I said its about the extra layer of defense that makes it harder to shutdown.
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Sep 02, 2010, 05:44 PM // 17:44
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#30
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Fast As A Turtle[WoOm]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elektraaa
and yes I am a lot better than you, and yes I am a lot better than anyone in your guild.
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Strong words, can I have your in game name? I want to play with you!
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Sep 02, 2010, 05:47 PM // 17:47
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#31
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Academy Page
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diabiosx
How did i just defeated my own argument?? a ranger has to decide between a rit or a earth. A mesmer can shutdown earth and monks, but its hard to find one. Again as I said its about the extra layer of defense that makes it harder to shutdown.
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Your argument is relying too much on: 'it's hard to find players that can do this' or 'it's hard to find players that can do that'. Forget what baddies are capable of and look at it from what is possible and what is not possible.
You defeated your own argument because you said it was possible with a good mesmer. You don't have to completely shut down the earth ele either.
You say people don't ball up yet the earth ele's bar requires that they do.
It's going to take a very skillful mesmer to be able to interrupt 2-3 second casts.
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Originally Posted by diabiosx
How did i just defeated my own argument?? a ranger has to decide between a rit or a earth. A mesmer can shutdown earth and monks, but its hard to find one. Again as I said its about the extra layer of defense that makes it harder to shutdown.
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Extra layer of defense providing that people stand in AOE which according to you, people do not do. Mean while, you have to hope that the opposition doesn't have a fire ele otherwise while you're standing in UG for protection, you're going to be taking damage and their warriors will be line backing. Interesting theory, regardless: Look at the recharge of skills.
Last edited by Elektraaa; Sep 02, 2010 at 05:50 PM // 17:50..
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Sep 02, 2010, 05:54 PM // 17:54
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#32
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Fast As A Turtle[WoOm]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elektraaa
Your argument is relying too much on: 'it's hard to find players that can do this' or 'it's hard to find players that can do that'. Forget what baddies are capable of and look at it from what is possible and what is not possible.
You defeated your own argument because you said it was possible with a good mesmer. You don't have to completely shut down the earth ele either.
You say people don't ball up yet the earth ele's bar requires that they do.
It's going to take a very skillful mesmer to be able to interrupt 2-3 second casts.
Extra layer of defense providing that people stand in AOE which according to you, people do not do. Mean while, you have to hope that the opposition doesn't have a fire ele otherwise while you're standing in UG for protection, you're going to be taking damage and their warriors will be line backing. Interesting theory, regardless: Look at the recharge of skills.
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UG says: "7 stay still im dropping a UG/eruption to you in 3 2 1."
"Oh shit every1 is hitting my ghost, im nuking altar."
Again yes a skillful mesmer can shutdown the UG, and so what?? its better than a fire that adds 0defense. having something is better than nothing.
The more I talk to you, the more it seems like you dont play this game/dont play much/pver with previous pvp experience.
I think we are having a confusion with 1v1 matches and HoH/3way matches/cap maps.
Last edited by diabiosx; Sep 02, 2010 at 06:02 PM // 18:02..
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Sep 02, 2010, 06:01 PM // 18:01
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#33
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Academy Page
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diabiosx
UG says: "7 stay still im dropping a UG/eruption to you in 3 2 1."
"Oh shit every1 is hitting my ghost, im nuking altar."
Again yes a skillful mesmer can shutdown the UG, and so what?? its better than a fire that adds 0defense. having something is better than nothing.
The more I talk to you, the more it seems like you dont play this game.
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I'm sure if you were in my situation you would say that a bad player might miss song. Really, your arguments are ridiculous.
You can have defense on another character.
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Originally Posted by diabiosx
having something is better than nothing.
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Not necesarily. For example, you could have an entirely defensive build with 0 offense. You would not be guaranteed to get past UW.
Quote:
Originally Posted by diabiosx
The more I talk to you, the more it seems like you dont play this
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I guess when you've earned 1/10,000th of what I've earned from competitive gaming as a whole, then perhaps I'll actually give a damn what you think.
Until then, I'd advise pong.
*edit*
Quote:
Originally Posted by diabiosx
The more I talk to you, the more it seems like you dont play this game/dont play much/pver with previous pvp experience.
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You are in woom...
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Originally Posted by diabiosx
I think we are having a confusion with 1v1 matches and HoH/3way matches/cap maps.
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I think you pick and chose when it suits you.
Last edited by Elektraaa; Sep 02, 2010 at 06:06 PM // 18:06..
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Sep 02, 2010, 06:05 PM // 18:05
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#34
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Fast As A Turtle[WoOm]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elektraaa
Not necesarily. For example, you could have an entirely defensive build with 0 offense. You would not be guaranteed to get past UW.
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Having something is better than nothing as I said, please stop nick picking what I said to make yourself looks smart. I am just repeating what I said because you keep nickpicking(my; having some defense to your: having all defense and 0offense) and putting things out of context. You are not experienced in HA, i can tell from your posts.
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Sep 02, 2010, 06:06 PM // 18:06
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#35
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Academy Page
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diabiosx
Having something is better than nothing as I said, please stop nick picking what I said to make yourself looks smart. I am just repeating what I said because you keep nickpicking and putting things out of context. You are not experienced in HA, i can tell from your posts.
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LMFAO.
12chars.
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Sep 02, 2010, 06:07 PM // 18:07
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#36
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jan 2008
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diabiosx
UG says: "7 stay still im dropping a UG/eruption to you in 3 2 1."
"Oh shit every1 is hitting my ghost, im nuking altar."
Again yes a skillful mesmer can shutdown the UG, and so what?? its better than a fire that adds 0defense. having something is better than nothing.
The more I talk to you, the more it seems like you dont play this game/dont play much/pver with previous pvp experience.
I think we are having a confusion with 1v1 matches and HoH/3way matches/cap maps.
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Those heats on your bar aren't just for offense. You can drop them on a warrior and your team can kite through them.
Also, dead things can't hurt you.
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Sep 02, 2010, 06:08 PM // 18:08
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#37
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Academy Page
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IrishX
Those heats on your bar aren't just for offense. You can drop them on a warrior and your team can kite through them.
Also, dead things can't hurt you.
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YOU ARE BAD.
Monks can only cast AOS on ONE player.
RANGER CAN ONLY CAMP ONE PLAYER.
BIG DMG'S ARE ONLY FOR ONE PLACE IN THE MAP.
How dare you use them for something else? Just how dare you.
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Sep 02, 2010, 06:10 PM // 18:10
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#38
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Fast As A Turtle[WoOm]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elektraaa
LMFAO.
12chars.
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OK lets make this simple, my HA fame vs your HA fame and if that doesnt mean anything
your in game name and then we know who knows less about HA.
If you dont play the arena plz STFU.
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Sep 02, 2010, 06:12 PM // 18:12
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#39
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Academy Page
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diabiosx
OK lets make this simple, my HA fame vs your HA fame and if that doesnt mean anything
your in game name and then we know who knows less about HA.
If you dont play the arena plz STFU.
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Hold on while I work it out (6 accounts).
*edit*
49,392
(What does this prove btw? other than that you are butt-hurt). Idc about yours, so don't bother telling me actually.
Last edited by Elektraaa; Sep 02, 2010 at 06:17 PM // 18:17..
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Sep 02, 2010, 06:18 PM // 18:18
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#40
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Fast As A Turtle[WoOm]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elektraaa
Hold on while I work it out (6 accounts).
*edit*
49,392
(What does this prove btw? other than that you are butt-hurt). Idc about yours, so don't bother telling me actually.
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ok your ingame name, I can prove to you that u are a waste of time with ur ingame name
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